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Igorz88
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« on: August 02, 2013, 08:17:59 AM »

First and foremost…I think there is a new Lyova in town (potomu chto mne nuzhen truck shtob razgruzit ves etot musor), 90% of it didnt even make sense... Wow, holly smokes. So this was some sort of an apology? Anyone else though that it was?  Airing laundry? Never in my post have I mentioned any names; furthermore it was simply a request for members (without mentioning names) but you my friend went out of your way to contact Irvin I pozhalovatsya kak tebya bednogo obideli. (Cry me a river) I guess “Na vorye shapka gorit!” It is now 12:21am but since push came to shove (ya ne polenyus) I will word for word write out yesterday’s txtng conversation and a timeline of it with some comments next to it.

7:10 pm: I get a phone call from Lou (not Donkey) “There was a trade PROPOSED that we kind of agreed on, but I need a confirmation from Donkey whom I cant get a hold off right now” Lou im sorry but I already sent out a txt mssg of the only trade that was announced before the deadline, if I send another one now some people may question and ask for a  proof that it happened on time (via some sort of a time stamp e.i. txt or email) Sorry not right for the league. Lou says OK, wont argue on this.

8:07 pm: Txtng from Boris begins, “I assume you said no”
8:08pm: Igor: What? It’s a done deal buddy (I though he was replying to an earlier announced 3-way deal)
8:08pm: Boris: Whats a done deal? Im trying to tell you I had a deal with Lou before 7
8:09pm: Boris: He couldn’t get a hold of donkey
8:09pm: Igor: Lou does not own any team in papabear
8:10pm: Boris: Well he was talking to me on Donkeys behalf, Igor totally up to you, you run this show (this was a first poke…yes I do and that’s why there is some sort of organization…I NEVER EVER DO THINGS FOR THE GOOD OF ME…although u blatantly accuse me of doing so, pretty much every chance you get)
Next was a request to call him, but I couldn’t since I was trying to have dinner with my wife

8:11pm: Igor: Exactly…I have no deals from you submitted by 7pm or for that matter even when Lou called cause Donkey wasn’t around
8:12pm: Igor: So sorry but it’s a no go from me
8:12pm: Boris: I understand thats why I asked Lou to call said OK ( I wasn’t clear on this mssg I can only assume that you meant that you knew that I wouldn’t allow it, so u asked lou to call instead)
8:12pm: Boris: Gosha for once stop being Gosha (prick number two…now wtf is that suppose to mean? Stop being fair, stop having control and order? Stop treating everyone the same way? This little message set me off, cause that’s pretty much what I ALWAYS hear from you buddy, stop being Gosha and let this one slide)
8:15pm: Igor: Boris….and not for the first time f*ck(1) you…stop being Boris the dick(2)…I perestan tashit odeyalo na sebya…it wouldn’t be the first and likely not the last time when you try to pull shit(3) like this…feel free to discuss this with Marat, but I already did and he is on the same page with me (the parentecies show the number of times that I used a profanity)
Marat’s message was that we need to have a zero tolerance policy in place…

8:18pm: Igor: I have nothing in writing and therefore cannot provide proof for the people in play…hence I cannot allow it…what if Irvin asks me when was the trade done and to send him a timestamp…what would I do… anyway no sense to discuss further I’m sorry for the good of the league cannot allow…don’t take it personal as you would say
8:20pm: Boris: F*ck<1>  you you F*cking<2>  asshole<3>  don’t talk to me for cursing me out. Honestly you take the fun out of the league (If by fun you meant being fair and not allowing you to trade past the deadline than I guess you right) Enjoy dinner ***arrows represent the number of times that Boris used profanities***

8:21: Boris: I’ll be more than happy to pay you and never deal with kindergarten bullshit<4> enjoy your dinner (I believe kindergarten is exactly where kids play and im pretty sure they don’t know whats fair and what isn’t…so in this case doesnt apply, cause I was doing the exact opposite)
8:21pm: Igor: you are more than welcome to do whatever you would like
8:23pm: Boris: Duck<5> you honestly (by duck im assuming you meant f*ck), you are an ass<6> for cursing me out enjoy your summer (cursing out? by my count you are ahead 6:3)
8:23pm: Boris: Dinner*and im done with your bullshit<7> (what bullshit is that, not allowing you to get your way?)
8:23: Igor: Great to know
8:27: Igor: You know what…honestly speaking you don’t leave me much choice since you always try to find ways to scheme everyone around…a pritvoryayeshsya durochkom(4) …Sorry for cursing (an almost immediate apology) but you keep pushing my buttons… you perfectly know the rules but pretend like u r doing nothing wrong and then expect others to just let it go
8:29pm: Igor: You had a similar episode a few years ago with Felix at which time you blamed Felix…but now I know for sure who was at fault…and back then I said never again will I allow deals to go past the designated deadline and I will not for the GOOD of the LEAGUE

8:38pm: Boris: What part of f*ck <8> you don’t u understand I’m done with you I’m done with u disrespecting me (who is disrespecting whom exactly here?) I’m not a child ( I beg to differ) your only way is to f*ck you.  You’re a f*cking <9> father of 2 you are 36 (pardon me 37) yet ur only way to communicate is to curse me out (Are you still counting boys the score 9:4 in favor of Boris) Why don’t you ask me how my day is going why don’t you ask me how my construction is going? (Really Boris? Did you ask me how I was doing …when you started you txtng conversation?) Ask Lou for goodness sake when we agreed to deal (incidently I did…u know what he said? Your final OFFER (NOT DONE DEAL since you were waiting for donkey anyway) came at 7:05pm, and he was calling me well knowing that you had no business even proposing it) I don’t give a duck <10> (by duck im sure you meant f*ck again) if this goes through and you will never speak to me like this again (speak how exactly?) I never ever disrespect you or your family and this is f*cking <11> fantasy you are an ass <12> that’s all you do you are a bully enjoy your dinner (how was I bullying you, did I threaten to throw u out? Or did I unlawfully ask you to give me players for $$ in return or for free even)
8:43: Igor: Bye bye Boris…since my f*ck to you  …you have f*ckd me five times that.. (correction it was actually 3x 12:4)…to which I already apologized for but its all god…unfortunately u r the one that doesn’t know fantasy from reality
8:43: Igor: Marat told you the same answer… no?  I don’t see u talking to him like that..its all good I can take it…bring it

8:49: Boris: Gosha you apologized after cursing me out (Boris 12 Igor 4..who is cursing whom out???) That’s like beating the shit out of someone and then saying sorry (I don’t see you bleeding??) Felix thing 3 years ago was all him but you can blame me, today ask lou what happened and who wanted to trade ( I did better I asked donkey and he read me all you mssgs where he clearly stated that unless you accept his one only offer its s a no deal, but you kept pushing and pushing ..he even stopped replying) I was done all I asked donkey 3 times today yes or no Lou texts me at 6:53 (already a red flag) saying noand when we modified it was before 7 but its not moot point (a lie, since lou said that your proposal came at 7:05pm) Marat is fair and I told him not to bother and he never ever curses me out (just in case people forgot the score 12:4 Boris) That’s all you do f*ck me f*ck me (Boris  12 : Igor  4) Enough dude lou told me to deal with it so I reached out to u when I could so deadline passes shit happens

8:49pm: Igor: BTW today is mine and Angies 20year anniversary since we started going out . Thanks for allowing me to enjoy it (and she is with me cause im fair, honest and never cut corners like some, that how she takes me)
8:50pm: Boris: Gosha I will never lower myself to you level and I will never disrespect you as a person but you did (Lower to my level? What level is that ? Being fair honest  and not looking to find loopholes? How exactly did I disrespect you? Just curious?)
8:51pm: Boris: Enjoy it my fault didn’t mean to intrude you can apologize for your behavior on my behalf tell her im sorry that im the duck thats messing it up
8:52pm: Igor: What are you 13? Get over it…I told you to f*ck off after u kept pushing and pushing as always…u just never stop with me and I always always first two times give you a civilized answer but then you keep going and im sure u just take Marats answer once…too little too late..dinner is ruined
8:53pm: Boris: Dude go enjoy your wife and dinner and I heard you loud and clear

After which came a series of my failed phone calls which you haven’t answered until about 9pm the next day when you tried calling me ..but I was busy

Phew!!! How is that for airing the laundry…(i didnt try to "be funny" as you put it, i simply stated the facts, but i think this was far more entertaing) my initial message yesterday simple stated  respect others don’t think that you (general , not u specifically) better than others and deserve special treatment, today its 10-15 miniutes next year its 30 and so forth

One other thing Donkey told me yesterday that he never agreed nor was planning to agree to your deals unless u accepted his ORIGINAL offer, so u wasted a lot of time and energy into something that wasn’t even going to happen

So there you have it, I believe you owe the league an apology for even trying to pursue a deal after the designated deadline (and supposedly trying to say that the deal was in place before 7pm…which both Lou and Donk confirmed that it was NOT)
What you from this point is totally up to you, tebya nikto ne vigonyayet just asing to u play fair, you want quit? Well that’s your choice, but if you cant take the heat don’t go into the kitchen (and by the looks of it you cant)

Dear Newbies:

(can I call u that? Ilya Irvin..u kind of are though and don’t  know everything about this league, I appreciate your feedback, even though neither one of you stated whether you think that its ok that Boris would try to do the deal after the designated deadline)
And this is a big deal in our league people are afraid to speak out and try to stay neutral (politically correct if you will) although to me personally they say that im right
Ilya back in the day our trade deadline was much more fun than it is now, we used to meet  the night of spend a few hours , have some food and make some trades. Unfortunately people stopped being interested in meeting deadlines so we went away from it and since the actual deadline is usually 4pm and only a few actually wanted to meet we saw no reason to extend it past the games times, because in all honesty and you ask your brother that, you shouldn’t be waiting until 5 to 7 to do the deals anyways.  Plan ahead, the actual baseball deadline rarely makes a difference ask Marat when I started talking to him about side deals?  We can look back into meeting deadlines if people actually want it…but I have my doubts with that…you can prove me wrong guys

Irvin I know u want to be involved and I applaud that …although this is another thing that we used to do before every draft is discuss minor tweeks and changes for the upcoming season, but this too people stopped caring about; and I even distinctly remember hearing someone say “Lets just draft, you come up with the rules and tell us” so unfortunately we stopped that too.  But this too can be restarted  if people show interest in doing so…
So again people prove me wrong and speak out; on all counts…especially Did Boris try to do the right thing? And would you be ok with it, if it affected you and I were to not be Gosha as Boris nicely put it and let him make the trade after the deadline? Time is ticking …. Hockey starting soon!!!!

Oh yes almost forgot, here are the waiver moves (Boris i must have cheated again and listed a closer from Arizona just in time for me to draft him)

Drop: Ryan Roberts 3B - TB Jul 31, 3:56 PM: Rays recall INF Roberts from Triple-A - Staten Island Snake Eyes
Claim: Junior Lake (R) OF - CHC - Staten Island Snake Eyes

Drop: Trevor Bauer (R) SP - CLE Minor Leagues - Staten Island Maccabees
Claim: Joe Saunders SP - SEA Jul 31, 2:54 PM: Orioles heavily pursuing SP Saunders - Staten Island Maccabees

Drop: Jordan Pacheco 3B - COL Minor Leagues - Brighton Beach Bombers
Claim: Jordy Mercer 2B - PIT - Brighton Beach Bombers

Claim: Andrew Cashner SP - SD - Ocean Ave Sounders
Drop: Marco Estrada SP - MIL Mid-August? - : Marco Estrada resuming rehab assignment - Ocean Ave Sounders

Drop: Jason Vargas SP - LAA Early August - : Jason Vargas to throw simulated game - Wall Street Bulls
Claim: Jose Quintana SP - CHW Jul 31, 10:38 PM: Quintana allows three runs in no-decision - Wall Street Bulls

Claim: Chris Archer (R) SP - TB - Odessa Sailors
Drop: Jason Marquis SP - SD 2014 - : Jason Marquis to have Tommy John surgery - Odessa Sailors

Drop: Ryan Madson RP - LAA Madson (elbow) nearing rehab games again - Fulton Diamond Cutters
Claim: Jose Cisnero (R) RP - HOU - Fulton Diamond Cutters

Claim: Brad Ziegler RP - ARI - Black Sea Pirates
Drop: Bruce Rondon (R) RP - DET - Black Sea Pirates
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 09:27:48 AM »

P.S, read my comments in the previous message...
Nobody allowed 2 break or bent the rules, even though we playing 4 fun and trying 2 get away from every day problems ( stress, job, wives, kids, etc )
We need 2 meet and talk, and stop this bs!!!
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 02:21:57 PM »

newbie or not i have enjoyed playing in this league for over 3 years.I think this league is fun and i enjoy competing against well knowledged managers.I personally have an opinion on this matter but its not about taking sides.Techically I gor is right if rule is 7pm thrn trades cant go through after that time its in the book of rules.What I am saying is that if we agree to new set rules thaty everyone agrees to we wouldnt have any more comp[lains from other managers about certain issues like this one.Boris is good dude he attempted to make an exc eption to the rule and he was denied.I know it sucks to be denied but lets move on .lets go forward communicare with each other establish firm set of rules that should be followed for next 3 or 5 years and have fun again.Fantasy should be fun not be about bickering cursing or ruining friendships so establish rules abide by them and play competitive fantasy sports.I propose that we all meet one day at the middle or end of september and hammer out a so called "collective bargaining agreement". Who ever cant make it cant comp[lain about anything anymore.If u cant make this meeting you will be excluded from final rule making process and cant complain about any rules or rule changes . So lets do this next month go over everything and negotiate something good please respond to me igor or marat if you are interested. PS I just want to thank Igor for everything he has done to maintain integrity in this league .I know its not easy having job and 2 kid you are a good comish and i respect your integrity and firmness. and to boris i think you are a great dude and we have done alot of trades this year it was fun hope you stay and we can compete against each other again .techically igor was right on trading deadline but we will create some new rules which will prevent certain arguments like this from happeniong again thankj you Irvin aka diamond cutters
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